Introduction

And I will go here, so I need your help. I need your help, I need your help.

So what will we create a podcast about? Tell me, do you have any ideas?

Anything like you really wanted to hear in a podcast, or things maybe you listen to in a podcast already?

Business.

Sorry? Business. Business.

Create money.

I think everybody would want to know that. Yeah. Like how you can create money in a business with a business.

Okay. Good one.

Ideas for Podcast

Anyone else?

Future of AI. Future of AI.

Oh, that's a deep one. Dangerous.

Other ones? Or something like Ancient Rome. Ancient Rome.

Future of AI, Ancient Rome, how to make money with a business.

Children's Rights and AI

Today is the 100th anniversary of one of the children's rights and World Children's Day. One of the rights of the children and one of the rights of AI. Children's rights and AI.

Okay, I like that. Okay. One more, perhaps? Dolphins. Yeah? Yeah? OK. OK. OK.

I'll pick here if you're OK. I'll go for the children's rights and AI. OK?

Introducing Cove.ai

So I have this tool. Anybody used Cove before? Cove.ai. No, oh yeah, one, yeah, great.

So this is a new tool that came out recently. And to me, this really illustrates also another way of using AI in a different UX. 1And this is what really is gonna change how we interact with generative AI in particular.

So let's get started here. So I'll just tell it. So what are you working on?

Okay, I want to, hang on. I want to do a research on children's Children's rights and generative AI. Is that okay?

Yeah? Okay. So, let's see what happens. If we are all connected now. Oh, we are. Okay.

So, it's suggesting a few different things. And so this is where I think this kind of UX is pretty interesting, because in ChatGPT, Cloud, in all of these tools, it's command line, prompt, things we had 30 years ago.

The Future of UX in AI Tools

Like who used MS-DOS? MS-DOS, anyone? Yes. So like command line, terminal. We've been using terminal in Mac.

OK, a bit more. So that's not the interface for the future. This probably is not the interface either. But it's structuring information in a very different way.

So let's see what it's suggesting here. So children tries an overview, so data privacy, content exposure.

What do you think? Well, is this a good start for our research?

Participation in society, their rights to vote, why don't we recognize them as citizens, these kind of questions. OK. That's a different angle, like a bit outside of AI, isn't it?

Ethical Guidelines and Stakeholders

Okay, so key stakeholders, okay. So any of these we should, so ethical guidelines. So let's develop this.

So let's look at the ethical guidelines for AI. So we'll just hit there because we want to have some more details.

So it's actually suggesting things as we build it, right? So let's just zoom out a bit. And like it's adding a whole section like on ethical guidelines for use with children, right?

But so what were you saying? So you were saying that, you know, we could do, you were saying sometimes we should add something about what, like voting rights? The reason why women didn't vote for centuries, we use the same reasons for children not to be participating.

Okay, so voting rights for children Okay, so let's let's let's try so voting rights for children and we'll use the AI to help us like fill this in So, let's see what comes out so it has a bit of context already and Okay So currently I do not have a right to vote in most countries based on okay arguments. Okay, so Global initiative, so look at that. So there's global initiatives happening.

Scotland allows 16-year-olds to vote in some elections. Hmm, I like that.

Anything else that we should add? Oh, here, emerging regulation on generative AI and children. So then it's hopping out and giving some more details on that.

Norway, good example. So this gives us a bit of background.

So let me just try to dig a bit deeper here to see if there's actually some research that we could pull out and use. Research reports on these topics you could add. So I want to have some sources, some research that has come out.

So he's giving some references here. Oh, even adding some photos. So let me just zoom out here.

So let's see. So it's working, it's working.

So this is just a free version here now, so you have like 100 cards for free, and then you have to pay for it. And then it's using more advanced models as well to generate all of this.

So let's see, oh, here. Kid Rights Index Report, okay. Very good, Children Rights Youth Foresight Report, okay.

So I can actually, so you have the sources here as well. Lagging progress. So lots of different things. Maybe not all of them like that relevant, but here, like different sources.

So maybe we have what we need now. So this is like a good research basis, right? So let's dive a bit further.

Research Tools

So who has used Notebook LM? We showed it a bit last time. So a couple of you.

So this is the research tool from Google. And it's only based on your own sources and that you provided.

But since I want to create the podcast, it has this very nice podcast feature, which was probably just added randomly by some Google engineer. And it turned out that that was what made the product take off.

So let's create a new notebook here and let's add some sources. So we'll go back here. We'll add a few things here.

I want some sources here, like it writes index report. So let's do this. So I'll just copy in a few of these URLs. Copying in the sources here.

Okay, so that's one. We'll add some more things. So, you know, I have a few of these like documents.

I'll just copy in the text, actually, if we can do that from here. So I like the, you know, the emerging regulation, all of this. Let's see if we can just copy that in. So just, you know, pasting it in here.

Ooh, that's a lot. But it will make sense of it. Okay, what else? Let's add at least one more thing here.

Here. Children's Regenerator AI and Overview. Okay, let's do that as well.

And we should probably have the title so it doesn't get totally confused either. So... So here, okay. So we're giving it like three sources, let's say. Quick and dirty. So it's in here.

And we have this notebook guide section here, so we can actually ask any question we want to this source material. So we can work with it. So you can paste lots and lots.

Is it 50 sources you can paste here? PDFs, everything you saw. Also, interestingly, YouTube videos.

Think about like an hour of a lecture or whatever you have. Pretty annoying to go through and try to make sense of it. Drop it in here and then you just talk with it.

Using Google Notebook LM

I want to use this audio overview thing and I want to customize it. What should we focus on? A specific topic here. Like how AI can help children's rights? Yeah. How AI can help to develop children's rights.

OK. So I'll just let that cook in the background, and then I will come back to it if Google is happy with us.

So I will go over to another tool here. So this is the tool I've been using for my podcast. And I'll send someone out.

Yeah, OK. You have a delivery, I think. Thank you.

Podcast Creation Tools

So this is the tool I've been using for podcasts. And it's called Descript, and it's an audio and video editing tool that started out mainly on the audio side, added video, and added a lot of AI features.

So this is what I've been using to create my podcast. So I've actually added, and you have lots of things built in. So you have like standard sounds, lots of things you can add.

So I've actually added like a small intro here. Get started.

Oh, oh, okay. That was a bit weird. But it was me, unfortunately.

So what I'll do, it didn't sound really good. So they have this feature they call Studio Sound. And I did the podcast with someone who was in a co-working space and called me, dialed me virtually on a Google, it wasn't Google Meet, but my recording feature.

And it sounded horrible. And I was like, shit, what will I do?

And they launched a studio sound feature, which, you know, when you enable it, it cleans up all the audio. So it sounds like a studio.

Editing with Descript

Welcome to this test recording for the Mindstone AI Meetup. It's fantastic to have you here tonight. And we will see how this will be going.

So, cleaned up. And so the power here is that you get instant transcripts as well of everything.

And you can actually, so when it recognizes your voice, you can actually change the words with AI. So if you said something you didn't like, you can actually edit it as well. Or you can edit it out.

So like the uh here, I'll just remove that. So let's get started. OK.

Let's get started. So let's see how our friends at Google have been doing. They're still working.

So OK. That's OK.

So let's see if we can add something else here. So I'll add another file I have.

Generating Podcast Content

Frank? Did you say you can write new words? Could you try and do that?

If you write new words and then it takes you a while. Yes. So let's see here.

Oh, here it's actually ready. Hang on. So just to show you here.

So it's actually generated 13 minutes on my sources now. Hey, everyone. Welcome back.

Today, we're going to be taking a deep dive into how AI can help develop and protect children's rights. Oh, fascinating topic. Yeah.

And we've got some pretty interesting sources. Okay. We're looking at the 2024 Kids Rights in

index report, which honestly paints a pretty sobering picture of the state of children's rights around the world right now. But then we're going to kind of shift gears and look at some insights on how AI could actually play a role in improving the lives of children.

Yeah, you know what strikes me when I was reading through this kids' rights index report was this statistic about the 21% increase in serious violations of children's rights oh wow in conflict zones that's a lot it's huge and it really kind of highlights why this discussion about ai and children's rights is so important right now absolutely it's like a wake-up call yeah especially because right now ai technologies are evolving at such an unprecedented pace it really makes you wonder if we can harness this power

Yeah, so I tested a few other sort of like podcast generation tools and most of them they sound awful, like honestly they sound really bad. This it not only sounds good, but the conversation is on a level which is quite amazing.

And I showed a bit last time as well. I think it's interesting when you skip to certain parts, like the end of it, so they summarize what you put in there, and they take it to the next level. So I thought, I don't want to make podcasts anymore, like interviewing people.

I'll just feed whatever I want to talk about to Notebook LM, and I'll create my podcast. You'll see that next time, hopefully.

So let's see here. So I fed this into Descript, and it's working.

So it is recognizing the... So let's see here. Started.

Hey, everyone. Welcome back. Today, we're going to take a deep dive into how AI can help develop and protect children's rights.

Oh, fascinating topic. So it's transcribing now, almost finished. So I'll bring up here the AI features in Descript. So this would be similar in other tools as well.

So here we have all the transcripts. And it's funny. So this, like the um, is what you would normally remove from a podcast. But Google has added it on purpose so it sounds more human-like.

Crazy. So actually here, there's a feature you would say, OK, remove filler words. And it will identify all of these words. And you can say, remove all. And like, boom, they're all gone.

It could sound a bit weird, so I prefer to do it manually. But still, you have those kinds of features. And I think... Could you add more, Frank? Add more? If you want a more uncertain speaker. Uncertain speaker.

So right now, in Notebook LLM, you can't adjust it more than what I added in. So you can give it a prompt. So similar to chat GPT, where you would give him a memory, or her, or it. So you could do that, sort of fine tune it a bit. But you can't, I think you can, in the prompt, you could say, you could try to say, to have a certain length. But I don't think it works perfectly.

be able to do a proper podcast in French? Yeah, so right now, it's only English. It is only English.

So actually, I didn't show you here, did I? So this was my process checklist before for producing a podcast, like all the things I had to do. Like, OK, I had to find the important passages. I had to remove the filler words. I have to prepare an audiogram, like a short piece of the podcast for publishing on social media. I had to do all of these things and then write it up and have a summary and all of these things.

Here, I can just say, OK, repurpose this. So find highlights. So like five highlights. I could give it even more details. And it will actually go through the text, which it has now. And it will find what it thinks is the most interesting passages. So I can use that. I can copy it in, et cetera. And it will work a bit on that now. So it helps the process and it speeds up the process like incredibly from a creative standpoint.

I'll go back here now. Let's try, so obviously, and just to, you know, what would be a title you would use here.

So this is what we could put into ChatGPT. Like before, I would copy-paste this into ChatGPT. Now you can just do it here, right, with custom instructions.

So it will, you know, try to find another title than what I put in here, right? We'll see. It's not as fast as ChatGPT, though.

So essentially, you could do all of these things now in one tool. You don't need to go back and forth.

Integration of AI in Workflow

So in terms of a workflow, and this is what's happening to all of these, not even creative tools, but most tools, just take Microsoft Copilot as an example, it is being integrated into all Microsoft tools, right? So you don't have to switch back and forth. It will be there when you are doing your workflow in emails, in documents, in presentations, et cetera.

And this is just the beginning, right? So it has turned up a few ideas. But I don't think he got the point, though, did it?

Mine's the way I meet up, insights and innovation. So he didn't actually get the kids' rights one. OK. So I might need to give it a bit more prompting next time.

Let's just try here to see here if it's able to summarize. Oh, oh, it's actually, it's because it thought we were looking at just some sections, that's why. Okay, there we go. Yeah, I was just selecting some words, so we didn't actually get it. So here we go, summarizing.

Discussion focusing on how artificial intelligence can contribute to the development and protection of children's rights. Okay, so I can just copy paste this into my podcasting tool and it's all ready. And then also, you know, social posts, blog posts as well.

Really, really great. And like the clips here is what I would usually have to do manually, like to find the best parts. And now we can do that immediately.

And I'll say I'll just need two clips. Now it should work. And I want an audiogram. So we'll see, thinking, thinking, thinking. So here we go. OK, so it found this piece. And it has copied that to a new section here, or new, what do you say, worksheet.

Let's play it. The future of AI is not set in stone. We can still shape it. We have a choice. and a responsibility to make sure it creates a better world for children. A world where they can thrive. That's the goal.

That's a powerful message. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive. We hope you'll keep exploring this topic with us. Absolutely. It's been a pleasure.

Conclusion

Okay, so need some small tweaks, right? You could probably prompt it so that you can find, you know, the exact portions that you want to take out. But already, you know, this would have saved me like two years ago. Sometime, really sometime.

So that's it for the demo.